> you don't have to identify with the thoughts coming out of the thinking-agent,
I really have hard time with this . What is the difference between thinking and perceiving agents. Both entities are doing thinking and perceiving. One seems to be passing some sort of value judgement on the other self. Why would some thoughts be "invalid". They are coming out of you for a reason, why should those reasons be ignored.
How precisely is the self( the one we are strongly identifying with) coming up with validity criteria for other self's thoughts. Surely its your own ambitions. right? eg: Ignore the thought of eating icecream.
Wouldn't this process create some sort of constant internal conflict where two self are fighting and passing value judgement on each other.
One way to put it that I've heard from meditation teachers is that it's very nice and useful to have your mind be a bit more "spacious." So you practice a kind of distancing where you let everything like thoughts and perceptions sort of just glide by. One way is to anchor your attention to your breathing and then get into a relaxed flow state. Most meditators report that this does not impair their normal functioning but gives them a beneficial clarity and peacefulness. It doesn't mean that you need to constantly second-guess your thoughts in everyday life; you should rather just be as you are, with just normal self-restraint, not add more "knots" to your mind.
Something that happens in daily life can invoke emotions but it doesn’t mean one has to react with an immediate emotional response. Instead accept the input for what it is and choose how to act on it.
Sometimes it's not the content of a thought that is the problem, but the way a thought affects other thoughts. In other words, often the goal of controlling your perception of your train-of-thought, is to use the feedback mechanism of quieting and negatively-training ignored thoughts, to prevent and discourage your thoughts from spiralling (as in panic disorder) or to prevent thoughts detached from a referent (as in schizophrenia) or to prevent thoughts from over-staying their usefulness (as in OCD.) In each of these syndromes, the analyzing-agent is freaking out due to something, and the perception of the freak-out is painful for the perceiving-agent, just like having someone shout into your ear is painful.
As well, in some psychological paradigms that people tend to intuitively use (at least in Western culture), some thoughts that diverge greatly from the "motivational base" of other thoughts—thoughts that aren't coherent with the rest of the self—are deemed to be "intrusive" or "ego-dystonic." (This doesn't make as much sense when you model your self as containing multiple agents with distinct preferences, as in the Internal Family Systems model, but I digress.) In such cases, mindfulness meditation can be used as a tool to silence incoherent thoughts, since they often trigger a crisis of self whenever they occur (e.g. "I keep thinking about what would happen if I stabbed people; does that mean I want to stab people?" or "I keep thinking about stepping out into traffic; does that mean I want to die?" when often these are just the ramblings of an internal agent obsessed with not doing those things who really wants to make sure you're aware that the consequences would be bad if you did do them.)
In either case, there's nothing wrong with thinking certain thoughts. It's really just that your analyzing-agent thinks there's something wrong with those thoughts that it is thinking, and this makes it do very useless and annoying things (from the perspective of the perceiving agent), like repeating the same thought over and over, or being unable to focus on or interpret what's in front of it, etc. These are "bad" inputs to thought-perception, just like clashing, atonal noise is "bad" input to sound-perception. (It's really the thinking agent that notices that the perceiving agent is experiencing pain qualia due to its output, and who then decides to do something about it by modulating the perceiving agent such that the thinking agent gets less CPU-time to run. Other than autonomic stuff like breathing and hardware-accelerated stuff like forming phoenemes with the mouth, it's only the thinking agent that ever "does" anything at all. But it's helpful to model the things it does because of the preferences of other agents, as being done by those other agents.)
I really have hard time with this . What is the difference between thinking and perceiving agents. Both entities are doing thinking and perceiving. One seems to be passing some sort of value judgement on the other self. Why would some thoughts be "invalid". They are coming out of you for a reason, why should those reasons be ignored.
How precisely is the self( the one we are strongly identifying with) coming up with validity criteria for other self's thoughts. Surely its your own ambitions. right? eg: Ignore the thought of eating icecream.
Wouldn't this process create some sort of constant internal conflict where two self are fighting and passing value judgement on each other.